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Post by joatmoniac on Mar 31, 2015 18:20:38 GMT
Two of my favorite deities (Moradin and Kord) in the same episode!? Can't argue with that. I really enjoyed the in depth look into those deities and the personalized spin you guys put on them. Another great guest on the podcast that added a lot of good info to the discussion. Can't wait to hear what's on the next Divine Spotlight, and will probably listen to this one again, to try and catch what I might have missed. With Moradin and Kord out of the way I don't knw who I'm rooting for for Divine Spotlight III, but I'm sure it will be awesome! Is there a deity you are hoping makes the cut soon?
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Post by insightfulhedgehog on Mar 31, 2015 20:11:19 GMT
I have a player in my campaign who follows Ehlonna so I would say I'm hoping for that. Also maybe Istus due to her connections with fate it would be interesting to hear how DM's Chris and Mitch would use this for story.
Edit: Note I have not heard the episode yet because I listen to it on the way to class so my opinion may change after finishing it.
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Post by Samuel Wise on Mar 31, 2015 20:22:26 GMT
I loved this episode and I did like everything on the Green Empress. Speaking of the Cheshire Cat, I wonder how you would create the fairy tale (though Alice in Wonderland isn't a Fairy Tale) atmosphere in a game. I also noticed that this is the episode where Stomp the Goblin King has been immortalized (at least on iTunes). The gods I most wish to hear about on the show are Auril goddess of winter and Lliira goddess of joy. Strange... Obviously I am fascinated by the most obscure gods.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 23:58:17 GMT
The original deities were fantastic, but it was earlier on during Moradin that I got an idea I want to pursue. Briefly, the elves and dwarves in my homebrew are descended from celestials (rather than fey, and made from stone/metal, respectively). I'm probably going to be converting the Elven and Dwarven pantheon into Archangel type figures in my setting in the near future. Names will change, but their personalities and spheres of influence should be readily convertible. Thanks for the inspiration, DM Mitch and DM Chris!
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Post by insightfulhedgehog on Apr 1, 2015 0:57:41 GMT
So, upon some reflection after listening to the first half of this weeks podcast I've got to say Tiamat and Bahamut would be a good pair to do in an episode. It is Dungeons and Dragons after all. However, I still am all for Ehlonna as a choice because the cleric in my party who worships her has a trait that is basically "hates everyone who doesn't worship Ehlonna." I don't really know anything about her and don't know what kind of things she would expect of the cleric. I mean, I've read some stuff but there doesn't seem to be a plethora of info. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places...
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Post by DM Mitch on Apr 1, 2015 1:40:51 GMT
1) So, upon some reflection after listening to the first half of this weeks podcast I've got to say Tiamat and Bahamut would be a good pair to do in an episode. It is Dungeons and Dragons after all. 2) However, I still am all for Ehlonna as a choice because the cleric in my party who worships her has a trait that is basically "hates everyone who doesn't worship Ehlonna." 3)I don't really know anything about her and don't know what kind of things she would expect of the cleric. I mean, I've read some stuff but there doesn't seem to be a plethora of info. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places... 1) Hmmm....interesting idea.... 2) Even in her own party? How does that play out? 3) It can be hard to find information on a lot of the gods in d&d. This is for a number of reasons. For one, the information is most often scattered throughout many books. Second, there are many gods that there simply is just very little written about. This is why I feel it is a good thing...and fun...to flesh out gods with your players when they choose them. Create the lore of the gods with your players as they choose different deities. The more you play d&d, and the more gods your players choose to worship, the more the religion in your world will grow in lore. PS. Thanks for the awesome feedback everyone!
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Post by insightfulhedgehog on Apr 1, 2015 2:09:46 GMT
1) So, upon some reflection after listening to the first half of this weeks podcast I've got to say Tiamat and Bahamut would be a good pair to do in an episode. It is Dungeons and Dragons after all. 2) However, I still am all for Ehlonna as a choice because the cleric in my party who worships her has a trait that is basically "hates everyone who doesn't worship Ehlonna." 3)I don't really know anything about her and don't know what kind of things she would expect of the cleric. I mean, I've read some stuff but there doesn't seem to be a plethora of info. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places... 1) Hmmm....interesting idea.... 2) Even in her own party? How does that play out? 3) It can be hard to find information on a lot of the gods in d&d. This is for a number of reasons. For one, the information is most often scattered throughout many books. Second, there are many gods that there simply is just very little written about. This is why I feel it is a good thing...and fun...to flesh out gods with your players when they choose them. Create the lore of the gods with your players as they choose different deities. The more you play d&d, and the more gods your players choose to worship, the more the religion in your world will grow in lore. PS. Thanks for the awesome feedback everyone! 2) It hasn't been a problem yet because a lot of the other players don't really actively follow any god. For example we have a druid who doesn't really have a god they worship because their religion is essentially just their bond with nature. The other thing is that the 5e character sheets don't seem to have a line to write deity on so one of my players didn't choose a god when we first played(He is a barbarian so most likely Kord). Also, sorry if it was confusing that I used both she and he, the player is a guy playing a girl character so I kept fluctuating. The main issue I have had so far was during play I got a "You need to give me a reason to be going on this quest." type thing. I thought back to an episode of the podcast and said "Although, that is partially true, you also need to try to come up with reasons because it is not just my responsibility." I also said I would think about it and get back to him but for now just to play like he had some motivation. I ended up saying that the villainous king had cut down the gardens in the city to put up temples to other deities. He has been fine since then. If it does come up that he has a problem with another member of the party I am planning to just say "These guys are your friends, you have been through a lot with them at this point, so any religious issues would be more of a concern from you that they are worshipping the wrong gods. You would be like one of those friends who keeps inviting your friend from another religion to your church in order to save them etc." Luckily that hasn't needed to happen though. 3. I'll have a discussion with him then. Especially because I am currently doing a lot of thinking about the formation of my world and the role the gods played. Likely, due to his choice of Ehlonna I will have her playing a slightly larger role then I had planned.
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Post by Samuel Wise on Apr 1, 2015 4:53:23 GMT
Another great idea is a single god. In my World-in-Progress there are two main religions, one is a very strict monotheism (or they believe in a single-god). This could add a lot to campaigns since I plan for there to be conflict between the monotheists and pantheists.
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Post by DMC on Apr 1, 2015 17:24:12 GMT
Most underrated diety that needs more detail? Wee-Jas. Death & Magic, but LN/LE?!?! C'mon! Seems ripe for good story.
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Post by dm_mainprize on Apr 2, 2015 14:39:40 GMT
This was the first episode that I didn't 1000% love.
This is shocking because Dwarves are my favorite fantasy race and Moradin is my homeboy. The reason I didn't love this episode is because I felt like it was a big tease. The meat was good lots of great info, but tinziens story time was a tease, it was like "hey here is an idea we are using in my current world, but to hear how it actually works and plays itself out you have to go download 3 sessions of my podcast." and I felt the same way about the green empress and nyax. We got information about them, but with green empress it was again something we would need to pick up deathd4dishonor to learn more about and more nyax details will require us to wait for a future story-time. I love having guests on the show, I understand they want/need to get some promotion out of the episode as well, but I felt like I lost a some valuable DMs Block content so that the guest could plug his own podcast. I completely understand keeping nyax info closely guarded as one of your players is the shows co-host and the other players surely listen to the show. I didn't hate the episode in fact I got a lot of ideas out of it. But it felt like a big tease, and now I have extra home-work to do before I can fully milk this episode for all its creative worth and value.
The daggers of the worshippers of Nyax seems incredibly awesome and I am working on something similar now for my homebrew setting. So mini-rant aside, another solid episode, cant wait for the next one to get released.
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Post by Samuel Wise on Apr 2, 2015 15:03:17 GMT
I agree, but maybe it was alright for me, cause I've been looking for a good Actual Play (by good I mean one I like). I enjoyed the Reckless Dice live plays, but they used the Warhammer Fantasy system. I am enjoying dd4d, but I certainly agree with you, storyline was shorter then it could have been.
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Post by DMC on Apr 3, 2015 16:32:18 GMT
Mainprize, I'd have to agree on the promotion part. I didn't dislike it per say, but I did find myself kinda going "Of course...".
Incidentally, Mitch & Chris, when you're reading stat info on gods/characters/items, etc...you're doing it from a 3E perspective, correct? I'm 99% sure that's the case, but just want to confirm.
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Post by DM Mitch on Apr 3, 2015 16:56:32 GMT
We truly appreciate this honest feedback!
Yes DMC. It is 3.5 for the most part.
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Post by friartook on Apr 3, 2015 17:14:40 GMT
So, I wasn't going to comment here, because I didn't have much to say about this episode. But given the tenor of the comments, I now feel compelled to jump in.
First, this was not my favorite episode, but that has more to do with subject matter. Deities and pantheons are just not a very big part of how I run a campaign or world. Others are very interested in this, so I just keep mum about it (I have similar feelings about the Magic centered episodes).
Second, I don't really see any problem with a guest from another podcast shouting out his or her podcast. Our friends from Tribality shout out their website all the time, and there have been no issues voiced regarding that. I have also really enjoyed the content put out by the RPG Academy, which I discovered through a mention on a DM's Block episode. I even started a thread in DM Resources call Recommended Listening, which is full of Podcast mentions, was well received and contributed to by many others on these forums.
I think the best constructive criticism I can offer is to keep the discussion on topic. Focus on the content, especially where these sort of inspirational episodes are concerned. DM Mitch and DM Chris do a great job of that, and their other guests have also done a great job.
I would also like to say that I think having guests form other podcasts is a great idea! I love a lot of actual play podcasts and I feel those DMs may have a lot to contribute. If we slam the guests here on the forums too much, others may not want to come on, so lets try and keep things positive. I want guests to the DM's Block to feel free to mention their own creation and content, these can lead to more opportunities for inspiration. Which is what this community is all about!
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Post by DMC on Apr 3, 2015 17:20:59 GMT
Second, I don't really see any problem with a guest from another podcast shouting out his or her podcast. Our friends from Tribality shout out their website all the time, and there have been no issues voiced regarding that. To me, it just felt more like a pitch, than a mere mention or shout-out. Just had a different vibe to it, that's all. Didn't turn me off in any way, it just stood out as different to me. In any case, if that's the worst thing to say about a podcast, then we're all in great shape!
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