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Post by joatmoniac on Dec 18, 2016 8:25:58 GMT
For this one I figured we could peel off a piece of Dayeimbe and figure out what type of monarchy is in place in that area. If you take a look at the map I marked off the North Western area as Vasoror, and put up a poll to figure out what kind people want to build. From there then it will be time to see what the monarch is like in that area! The 4 Monarchy types talked about were: 1. Absolute monarchy is a form of monarchy in which one ruler has supreme authority that is not restricted by any written laws, legislature, or customs. These are often, but not always, hereditary monarchies. In theory, the absolute monarch exercises total power over the land, yet in practice the monarchy is counterbalanced by political groups from among the social classes and castes of the realm, such as the aristocracy, clergy, and middle and higher classes. 2. Constitutional moarchy is a form of monarchy in which the sovereign exercises their authorities in accordance with a written or unwritten constitution. Constitutional monarchy differs from absolute monarchy (in which a monarch holds absolute power), in that constitutional monarchs are bound to exercise their powers and authorities within the limits prescribed within an established legal framework. 3. Federative monarchy is a federation of states with a single monarch as over-all head of the federation, but retaining different monarchs, or a non-monarchical system of government, in the various states joined to the federation. 4. Elective monarchy is a monarchy ruled by an elected monarch, in contrast to a hereditary monarchy in which the office is automatically passed down as a family inheritance. The manner of election, the nature of candidate qualifications, and the electors vary from case to case. Historically it is not uncommon for elective monarchies to transform into hereditary ones over time, or for hereditary ones to acquire at least occasional elective aspects. The map!  |
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Post by frohtastic on Dec 19, 2016 7:27:10 GMT
I'd like to suggest Elective in a way that if when the current ruler dies heirless then there would be a kingsmoot where the strongest leaders in different areas decide the next king, perhaps even amongst themselves.
If possible the next heir would perhaps even be from the same family line as previous rulers, to keep up with a sense of tradition and continuity for the people
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Post by blakeryan on Dec 19, 2016 11:01:02 GMT
they could vote for who could be queen while the land could be Vasoror, the people could be the naboo worked in the star wars prequels anyway which is fine since they are better than 4-6 anyway  one option is constitutional made up of nations or states, and those nations or states could have elections, which is what australia has now |
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Post by DMsardu on Dec 19, 2016 15:42:06 GMT
A Vote for an Absolute Monarch mostly after watching a documentary on the Tsars and Romanov's of Russia. Alexander the Great was well great. He held power in an absolute fashion those who opposed him or had tried to over throw him were met with the gallows. He took Russia from the Dark ages and into the 17th century upgrading the aristocracy. An Absolute Monarch could be used in many different ways to lead the story for the PCs. The Monarch needs to be over thrown or the Monarch needs to be saved or the Monarchs (son, wife husband,daughter,court wizard needs some rescuing)? Is the Monarch loved? Is the office feared? It the crown so heavy that the seat sits vacant until a suitable ruler can be found? Is that Ruler You PC? Will the land be rife with marauding orcs?
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Post by cptpipebeard on Dec 19, 2016 16:59:51 GMT
Yeah, I do always have a love for absolute monarchs, so that's where I am putting my dough. I'm going to agree with Sardu on his points, but also you can add something like: Is their (the monarch) word and personal tastes a code in which everyone should live their life like? With fashion changing every time a ruler dies, and so on.
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Post by blakeryan on Dec 19, 2016 19:16:13 GMT
absolute monarchs can have advisors, so archon of libraries & magic, minister of festivals & farming, vizier of underdark and mining
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Post by sneakyarrow on Dec 20, 2016 2:36:02 GMT
I'll put my vote in with Absolute Monarchy. But that is mainly because I see Vasoror as a very Nordic/Viking sort of area. There could be a united Viking land, which is kind of terrifying. I want to add that to my world, now... Brb.
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Post by retsamnoegnud on Dec 20, 2016 6:31:15 GMT
Federative allows for the greatest degree of creativity, as it would let us choose not only a High King (or Queen) but also many subordinate/vassal monarchs controlling smaller territories.
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Post by DMsardu on Dec 20, 2016 17:01:30 GMT
Federative allows for the greatest degree of creativity, as it would let us choose not only a High King (or Queen) but also many subordinate/vassal monarchs controlling smaller territories. An absolute monarch would allow for the same things. He has no place or the time to deal with a 2% tax increase on wheat sales in a southern town. That is a problem for the mayor or local Aristocracy the people who will be hiring the PCs for high adventures. |
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Post by joatmoniac on Dec 21, 2016 0:52:49 GMT
Given that the votes are spreading more than usual I am going to process that info, and work on some ideas of doing more than one area of Dayeimbe for this one!
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Post by justdave on Dec 21, 2016 9:30:54 GMT
I second the federative monarchy. It has tons of space for conflict and intrigue as well as the kind of drama mentioned in the episode. I love the idea of the good king having to abide to a horrid tyrant, maybe even trying to build up a coup?
It also has the interesting aspect of how the top-monarch enforces his policy. How do you discipline one of the "lower" kings for minor infractions without undermining him as a ruler? Do you strain the economy and productivity of the region with hefty fines? Or do you have some kind of inquisition that punishes the guilty court in another way?
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Post by galakan on Dec 21, 2016 19:48:02 GMT
Federative allows for the greatest degree of creativity, as it would let us choose not only a High King (or Queen) but also many subordinate/vassal monarchs controlling smaller territories. I use this in my own campaign world of Lyrentia. Making the different rulers of each province was a ton of fun, and also creating their relationship with the King was very fun to do. Federative FTW! |
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Post by joatmoniac on Dec 21, 2016 20:48:59 GMT
Here are some questions that need answers for the monarch of Vasoror. Grab one and help weave the tale! Some make sense to have multiple answers, so feel free to add to those whenever. 1. Race 2. Class 3. General Appearance 4. People they lead – possibility is that Vasoror is a very Nordic/Viking sort of area. There could be a united Viking land. If this is the way we want to go then using this info here would be a great base to build off of dungeonmasterblock.freeforums.net/thread/538/dm-nastics-40-odins-beard5. What do the people of Vasoror do? 6. What designates that the monarch can no longer rule? 7. What happens when the reigning monarch can no longer rule? It the crown so heavy that the seat sits vacant until a suitable ruler can be found? 8. How do the people under the monarch view them? Is the Monarch loved? Is the monarch feared? Is their word and personal tastes a code in which everyone should live their life like? 9. How do other people view them? Hated by foreign countries, or tentative relationships? 10. Advisors under the monarch? Ex: archon of libraries & magic, minister of festivals & farming, vizier of underdark and mining, other leaders of smaller areas. Etc 11. Where do they lead from? 12. Anything else you can think of! Depending on how this thread continues along we may have to slice off another piece of Dayeimbe to build our using a different monarch method. |
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Post by Jesse Ross on Dec 21, 2016 21:35:15 GMT
2. Cleric. I really like the idea of monarch having to be a servant of the main Vasororan deity in order to be considered fit to rule.
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Post by DM Exitium on Dec 21, 2016 21:47:36 GMT
I'll take number 1 race. Human of course would be an easy choice, but it would be interesting if it was a family or clan of White Dragonborn. |
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