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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 4:29:06 GMT
Wikia would work fine. Just keep the main content locked from editing by anyone who drops in, including Blockheads. Just a few editors should be able to hand it. I'm not volunteering for that job, but it's going to be a complete mess without oversight and organization. Solicit contributions and suggestions on the forum attached to the wiki, and have the editors adjust the wiki accordingly.
Before all that, we need to answer some basic questions about the world, so all contributors are on the same page. Stuff like levels of technology, how common is magic, the role of the gods (if any), sentient races, etc. Lacking guidance, contributors may suggest wildly and sometimes irreconcilably different content. I would do this by creating a separate thread to address the major questions, each with a voting poll. Might need another sub-forum for that.
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Post by kirklas164 on Sept 15, 2015 20:26:33 GMT
I love this idea, and I have an idea for how to make it I haven't seen yet.
First though, I like the diea of splitting it up into parts that Frohtastic suggested, and I also like lasersniper and DMKiado's ideas of using a wiki for the finished product. I would suggest, since this is a crowd-effort, to get a roll call of everyone who wants to be involved and how much they want to be involved. For example, I think pitching ideas would be fun, and I'd even be fine entering things into the final entry if you needed another person translating to the wiki, but I wouldn't enjoy sifting through wall after wall of text and picking out my favorite ideas. I'd only be able to do that for one or two things then I'd get burnt out, but some people may love that.
I would suggest, after figuring out who is involved, to divide up the world into as many creative domains as necessary. I'd like to see at minimum Races, Civilizations, Pantheon, Geography & Climate, Technology, Underdark, Magic, Unique Items, Influential Characters, Historical events, Ecology, and Classes. Some of these are interdependent, but that can be managed later. After breaking them up, have 2-3 volunteers curate a thread or something for each with open submissions from the commentariat for a certain amount of time. Then each curater would winnow the offerings to the top 3-5 and have a poll to pick the one that makes it to the wiki. Would be a little tricky, e.g. for some of them like race, civs and pantheon, this would be each curater setting up a few examples of what she/he thinks would be the most compelling combo of the submissions, but I think it would give it structure.
That's just one idea for a way to go about it though.
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Post by joatmoniac on Sept 15, 2015 23:32:41 GMT
The ideas in this thread are awesome, but I feel that they have taken on a very professional approach that would create a more daunting task than my intentions. If the DMB were to publish an official world setting breaking things up, pitching ideas, titrating them down to the best, then voting on them would take a lot of time and effort on someone(s) part. There would also be the need to keep the process open enough throughout so that new member could join at any point. Also, breaking things up an assigning them would move things away from the DM-Nastics posts, especially if things are getting their own threads to work inside of.
Don't get me wrong though, these ideas are perfect for collectively building campaign world in a short-ish time frame in a professional format. Also, I agree that certain things need to be established to help guide the ideas that are generated by people. I have taken all of the suggested things that need to be established and working on what would work best/be the most helpful to establish.
I think that I have also said the term "not sure what it will look like too much" as it is apparent that that has come across that I don't have any idea. Maybe I had too many initially, wasn't sure about community response (if no one liked the idea I would have most likely scrapped it,) wasn't sure where to house it long term while it is added to, etc.
My more concrete thoughts at this stage: Wikia seems like the best place to home grow the campaign world of Dayeimbe, and I have started filtering in some of the content already generated by the previous Dm-Nastics. I'm still thinking that leveraging the set up and structure of the DM-Nastics to help with getting more information for the world, and potentially having some different types of DM-Nastics to help out (DMNWB - DM-Nastics World Building series?) I don't think I will have a DM-Nastics out tonight, as I'm still working through the ideas in this thread. Which I can't say enough about how much I appreciate the opinions given so far, and hope to have any more great conversations about building a world together.
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Post by dmmadmaxi on Sept 16, 2015 1:37:40 GMT
To make a concise response. I am willing to help however possible! When I have the time!!!
Will post more in the morning when I am at my comp!
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Post by dmmadmaxi on Sept 16, 2015 10:17:27 GMT
I would love to help with this in any way I can, I may not be able to crank everything out at once. So as long as my schedule permits it I would love to be a part of this, I love world building. To me its probably my favorite aspect of DnD and the huge amount of imagination it takes to play it......so yeah there ya go (still waking up and kinda brain dead)
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Post by hawk on Sept 16, 2015 17:15:04 GMT
I love where all of this is going especially the organization part. Ends, ways, means broken down into bite size elements. I will support whatever is decided of course. Standing by.
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Post by DM Kiado on Sept 16, 2015 17:40:00 GMT
Well, maybe the answer is two fold. To me it sounds like, and correct me if I am wrong, but Joatmoniac is wanting to keep this for a DM-Nastics style action that is already established here. I really like the DM-Nastics stuff you guys have already done, and even when I don't post in them, I read through them. So I understand the noble roots of this exercise, and if you want to keep it that way, I think that is perfectly acceptable. If we are all hear reading through the threads anyways, then it will just get done over time, and it will be a neat experiment in what comes up from mass input to a world. That's a whole adventure in itself.
My original proposal that you need to organize, was more for if you wanted to take this to a more "serious" level (if that is the right term here, hence the quotes). Not to say you don't take this seriously either. Obviously you do.
If there are those of us who would like a make a more centralized and organized world, recruiting and shouting back at DMB for inspiration and help, and of course giving all credit where credit is due is another option. Just my two cents.
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Post by joatmoniac on Sept 16, 2015 23:31:43 GMT
Yeah, I think if you replace "serious" with "professional" that would work. I like the approach for that, but wanted to start somewhere a little more homegrown through DM-Nastics, but I realize that certain aspects fall outside of the scope of DM-Nastics and will need to be addressed. I think starting out by focusing/honing in DM-Nastics to be more world building centric is a good way to go, and then to have additional things made other ways or farmed out to forum members also makes sense. Best of both worlds to get things done.
The idea behind it is the awesome might of the collaborative power of the DMB forums needs to be curated, haha. I think it was when we did the DM-Nastics that collaboratively made a deity that I realized how awesome the information was that was coming from the DM-Nastics. Then a roughly built pantheon exists from another, a town, a paladin order, a gallery of rogues and heroes. It's like AMPM here "Too much good stuff."
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Post by frohtastic on Sept 17, 2015 4:35:23 GMT
The idea behind it is the awesome might of the collaborative power of the DMB forums needs to be curated, haha. I think it was when we did the DM-Nastics that collaboratively made a deity that I realized how awesome the information was that was coming from the DM-Nastics. Then a roughly built pantheon exists from another, a town, a paladin order, a gallery of rogues and heroes. It's like AMPM here "Too much good stuff." I believe the things we haven't done is countries and continents  iirc we have some underdark stuff as well (nr... 30?) some pirate stuff, etc etc. I believe we may end up repeating ourselves if we make DMNWBNastics with the semi same topics |
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Post by daxredhammer on Mar 2, 2020 16:53:29 GMT
These posts stop on 2015, is this still being worked on?
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Post by joatmoniac on Mar 9, 2020 5:34:22 GMT
More or less, but it is something that I want to start tackling again now that DM Celeste and I have more DM-Nastics out onto its own feed. How that will look though is completely up in the air.
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Post by daxredhammer on Mar 10, 2020 9:41:20 GMT
I always look forward to the podcast and the exercises. Have not had much time to tackle many, but definitely have made me start thinking more about the game and building my own world again.
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