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Post by Samuel Wise on Jul 13, 2015 20:06:23 GMT
Great podcast! I really enjoyed Quom as both a god and a cult. Perhaps it is how you described him, but I view him as an almost whimsical god, like that god of tricks that is continually mentioned. I can see them getting along really well. - A cult for the god of colors? There would be a brightly colorful group! - Since he is a god couldn't the one eyed Orc guy, just heal his eye? - Dancing around in a glade? Weirdest Larp ever. Great episode. I love some of the plot hooks and especially the items. And now I am working on fitting a cursed box into my game  . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 2:23:01 GMT
Yeah, Quom is pretty awesome. There's been good stuff in all the Divine Spotlights, but the guys' original gods have been my favorite 3 out of 3. The creation myth from the 2nd Edition Complete Book of Elves is my favorite and is actually a hybrid of the two versions the guys talked about. Below are the relevant passages:
"From the primordial turmoil at the center of the universe sprang the gods full-fledged, full-formed. Each claimed jurisdiction over certain effects, all being equally endowed with the power and force of the cosmos. They cooperated for the first (and the last) time to create the worlds. But some gods used their powers more wisely than their brethren.
An early alliance formed among these wiser gods. They knew how to manipulate their power. This gathering of gods, who called themselves the Seldarine, imparted their very essence into creating certain aspects of the worlds.
While other gods squabbled over jurisdiction and possession of this virtue and that attribute, the Seldarine modified some of the lands, making their worlds lush and green and beautiful. In addition, they created vessels that would one day hold the spirit of the first sentient life to set foot upon these worlds - the race of beings known as Elves." The important part is that these vessels were not the current incarnation of elves. Though the next myth refers to these proto-elves as simply Elves, they were more like elf-monkeys, exceptionally beautiful but not yet intelligent.
Then came the Godswar.
"When the god Gruumsh saw the creation of the Seldarine, the Elves, he regarded it as an abomination- and he became enraged. For the first time, desire for blood pulsed in a god's veins. Gruumsh prepared to crush the Seldarine, and some gods flocked to his standard while others stood aside. Still more, such as Moradin Soul-Forger and Garl Glittergold, aligned with the Seldarine, for they had - though not in conjunction with the Seldarine - set aside areas of the world for their own purposes.
When the inflamed Gruumsh attacked Corellon Larethian, the leader of the Seldarine, a mighty battle began: the Godswar. How long it raged over the pristine fields of the planets, no one knows. Each combatant drew great wounds from the spirit and the body of his or her foe. While the other contenders fell by the wayside (badly hurt, though not mortally wounded), Gruumsh and Corellon would not break off. Instead, they continued their fierce combat. They traversed the planes, and they splashed the other's blood across the lands.
As night drew near, the powers of Gruumsh strengthened, while those of Corellon waned. All seemed lost for the Seldarine. Tears from the moon landed on Corellon's upturned, stricken face, and they mingled freely with his blood. Then Corellon looked to his companions - and it was there he found fortitude. He drew back his sword and, with one fearful blow, clove out the orb of Gruumsh (who became known as Gruumsh One-Eye). The god howled in pain, black ichor spewing from the wound. Gruumsh turned and fled to the netherworld. There he nursed his hate, seeking forever after ways to shape the enemies of the Seldarine. And the greatest of his creations, made in the burning heat of rage and the blackness of his blood, was the Orcs. That is why, to this day, the Orcs and Elves are such bitter enemies. From the beginning, even before their creation, the very essences of their gods strove against one another.
With Gruumsh's defeat, the Seldarine and their allies continued their works. The Seldarine gathered the moon's tears and the blood shed by Corellon in that great battle, placed these into the vessels they created, and infused them with their own spirit. Each god imparted virtue into his or her creation, feeding and nurturing the newly formed race. Thus were the Elves born from the blood of Corellon Larethian, mixed with the soil of the world, blessed with the tears of the moon, and given their nearness to divinity.
The other gods saw this example and set about infusing life into their own sadly misshapen vessels, with varied results. Alas, all other races were but sad imitations of the elves."
What I like about this myth most is the subtext. The loss of innocence the proto-elves enjoyed recalls the story of Genesis, and in settings where humans descended from primates, it provides room for elves likewise being descended from some animal. Anyway, another great episode! Gotta work on the delivery of that tag line, though.  |
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Samuel Wise
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Post by Samuel Wise on Jul 14, 2015 3:06:43 GMT
What I like about this myth most is the subtext. The loss of innocence the proto-elves enjoyed recalls the story of Genesis, and in settings where humans descended from primates, it provides room for elves likewise being descended from some animal. I like this idea as well. It reminds me of how Tolkien wrote it as the elves being chaotic, like humans, in the beginning (how they disobeyed the Valinor, killed each other, etc.). But after years and years of living, the elves became more wise and less chaotic. Even though it certainly puts elves on a pedestal above other races. |
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Post by DM Mitch on Jul 14, 2015 3:54:50 GMT
- Since he is a god couldn't the one eyed Orc guy, just heal his eye? Wow, hahaha! I never even thought of this! So true! Maybe gods don't heal when hurt from god weapons? #newlore |
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Post by Samuel Wise on Jul 14, 2015 4:01:12 GMT
- Since he is a god couldn't the one eyed Orc guy, just heal his eye? Wow, hahaha! I never even thought of this! So true! Maybe gods don't heal when hurt from god weapons? #newlore Or perhaps, he really is a cyclops  |
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Post by DM Mitch on Jul 14, 2015 4:36:10 GMT
Wow, hahaha! I never even thought of this! So true! Maybe gods don't heal when hurt from god weapons? #newlore Or perhaps, he really is a cyclops no no no no no... |
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Post by joatmoniac on Jul 14, 2015 7:48:05 GMT
Clearly he is choosing to have one eye, because he knows it makes him look cooler. Then again this picture from the Forgotten Realm wiki seems to lean towards Almarianknight being right. forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Gruumsh?file=Gruumsh_p72.jpgAnother great episode full of awesome info. Always cool to hear about your home brew gods as well. |
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Post by friartook on Jul 22, 2015 18:02:13 GMT
Finally finished this episode.
One thing I have to say: How would everyone breath on a planet with no vegetation? Sandworms. #readDune
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