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Post by lasersniper on Dec 18, 2017 21:48:46 GMT
Sooooooo I saw the Last Jedi Saturday and I must say. HOLY BEJESUS do I love it. I need to see it again to digest it completely, but I love this interesting and not standard take on a Star Wars film. The dialogue was spot on between Rey and Kylo were so good. Their uncertainty in their own points of view untill solidifying it at the end. The combat scenes were spectacular in both visual and choreography. And the familiar parts felt fresh, and not fresh coat of paint either. The Hoth scene on Crait is the perfect example of that.
My favorite scenes have to be the Kylo & Rey teamup then clash, as well as Vice Admiral Holdens Hyperspace jump into the First Order Fleet.
I really would like to hear what the rest of you thought of it, because I have been hearing that this movie somehow split the fanbase. And I mean split. It has a 56% audience rating on rotten tomatoes right now (93% Critic Rating). I am very confused by this and would like someone to explain if they have similar views as apparently half of the viewing audience does.
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Post by joatmoniac on Dec 19, 2017 5:42:26 GMT
I think the fact that it isn't anywhere near a normal take on a Star Wars film is the reason why some do not like it. I love that you love it, so I don't want to be too negative on it, haha.
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Post by lasersniper on Dec 19, 2017 19:15:47 GMT
I think the fact that it isn't anywhere near a normal take on a Star Wars film is the reason why some do not like it. I love that you love it, so I don't want to be too negative on it, haha. I take it you don't like it then? If so, I am really curious why. Go ahead and be negative if that is how you feel. I just want to talk to SOMEONE who doesn't like it, because I haven't met any who have as of yet. I mean, apart from the rage comments that are more interested in yelling then talking. |
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Post by Lexurium on Dec 20, 2017 9:27:48 GMT
I agree completely with lasersniper. I totally LOVE episode VIII, it is well-paced, has interesting stories and characters, good twists, just enough backstory to be interesting without drowning the audience in exposition.
On my second viewing, just analysing the Luke/Ren fights was amazing, the attention to detail was really on-par with the saga staples.
I also agree with laser that, although I've heard some people don't like it, I've yet to hear a coherent argument on why not, so I would love to hear your opinion joatmoniac.
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Post by joatmoniac on Dec 20, 2017 19:26:42 GMT
I did enjoy watching the film, but I will say that the longer I sit with it the less I like the movie overall.
The approach to some of the characters in comparison to how they were in TFA was odd. Poe not caring at all what Leia was saying, and ending up being a complete hot head seemed a little off. Finn didn't seem to have very much character growth and felt like he ended up being in a similar spot to where he was in TFA. Luke being a crotchety old hermit who wanted even less involvement than Obi Wan did wasn't my favorite, but then again apparently even Hammill himself wasn't a huge fan of that take on the character.
I do get how people wouldn't like the lack of backstory for Snoke, and that Rey's parents aren't big name people. I am completely ok with it, and actually love that her parents weren't big names. Even with that said there could be changes come Episode IX as JJ will be back to writing and directing the film. I think a lot of people had deep head cannon for what should/would be in VIII, but little to none of those came to fruition.
Also, galaxies slowest chase ever, haha. why couldn't one of the Order's jump ahead and then cut them off? Why wouldn't they just put the main Resistance ship in between the transports and the planet? Why not pull that sweet turn and burn move before almost everyone is dead?
I feel like it all boils down to how different the approach was from JJ to Rian and then it will be back to JJ. I hold out my overall assessment of the film until I can look at the entire trilogy. I think that if Rian had started the trilogy I would like the film a lot more than I do. Which will be the case for the next trilogy as he is set to pen and direct it after IX is done. Hope some of that makes sense, haha.
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Post by Lexurium on Dec 20, 2017 21:01:35 GMT
No, it makes total sense, and thank you for posting that  Personally I gripe about the timing of the lightspeed thing as well, but not as much as I gripe about the lack of communication between the characters. This thread is marked ”spoiler” right? So I can go ahead, right? If not then SPOILERS Like when Luke went out to face Kylo and couldn’t be bothered to turn to any one of them, like, oh I don’t know, Leia perhaps, and say ”just run for it” (or ”fly, you fools” for the reference). I don’t quite agree with the Finn thing though. I felt he wasn’t really a rebel at the end of VII and start of VIII, just motivated by personal gain, helping his close friend, but by the end he was a true rebel leader, even boosting the morale of others. In the end I really like the movie, I think, not so much for what it was as for what it was not. That it wasn’t a complete pile of trash with another Jarjar, for example, is just a great plus in my book. Although the rey/ren scenes with snoke was pure space-fantasy brilliance in my book 😄 Anyway its late and I’m probably rambling again, but thanks for the answer joatmoniac! |
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Post by lasersniper on Dec 20, 2017 22:21:44 GMT
Also, galaxies slowest chase ever, haha. why couldn't one of the Order's jump ahead and then cut them off? The only point I will argue is that one, as canonically Hyperspace isn't used for such short distances. Mainly because even a jump lasting a few seconds will leap you over a lightyear away. But that is something that I imagine not everyone would know  . Thanks for your take Joatmoniac. It is nice to hear some actually reasoning, even if I disagree. On another note. I have seen people tearing the character Rose apart. I don't think it is malicious hate, because in the same sentence those same people are loving the actor. I really liked Rose as a character and her arc with Finn. I can see people not liking the Canto Bight section, but I though Rose the character was well written and fleshed out. A behind the scenes devotee to the cause who is sure in her mission even as she is heartbroken by the death of her friends and family. I am excited to see how she interacts with Finn in the next film. |
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. Thanks for your take Joatmoniac. It is nice to hear some actually reasoning, even if I disagree.