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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:46:23 GMT
Wish I could force some of the players in my D&D Expeditions group to listen to this one.
Long episode, but I love that. So many RPG game-craft casts go under an hour or less, it's like they're over before they even scratch the surface of whatever topic they're discussing. Cruroar's story is awesome by the way, I'm tempted to go back and change my vote on the favorite NPC/PC storytime thread!
Best tip for players I heard in this episode: if you've only ever been a player, try DMing!
(Poll taken from p.6 DMG. You can select 2!)
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Post by friartook on Apr 27, 2015 19:56:26 GMT
First off: Five star episode guys! Great ideas, great stories, sound advice for players and DMs.
Second: Special thanks to Mr. Howard (aka Umbralwalker) for sharing your insights and perspective.
I put a link to this episode on the Facebook page for my group. I hope they listen, I found the content inspiring even from a DM point of view. Nothing improves a D&D game like quality role playing. I'm hoping I can instill more participation in my players for our next campaign. I have had to kind of railroad them in this one. I think if they have more skin in the game on the character idea/creation process, they may be more willing to engage in the story. I'm working on a homebrew setting that I hope to have their assistance in shaping.
I also kind of hope they don't listen so I can steal the Warlock Resurrection idea. Sheer genius! Wish I had thought of it!
Nature Bards? I want one. If someone else doesn't homebrew that I'm gonna have to take time away from my family to do it myself 'cause its just that great!
I have been working on an "anti-magic" paladin order/path and I think the "Witch-hunter Monks" would fit nicely in with that too.
Again, great episode! Thank you DM Chris and DM Mitch and Umbralwalker!
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Post by umbralwalker on Apr 27, 2015 20:23:04 GMT
Thank you, Took. I had a great time and I'd love to see more people talking about the techniques of being a player, so huge thanks to the guys for having me back. Personally, I enjoy shorter podcasts, so of course I'm the guest on the longest DMB to date. We had so much to talk about, though, that I think people will be able to listen again and again to get more stuff. (Speaking of that, I have a contents list over at tribality.com/2015/04/27/one-for-the-players/ if people want to know where to skip to in order to catch things they missed). Also, thanks for the character-idea love. Can't take credit for the warlock, but it looks like the nature bard archetype might need to jump up in the queue for Rich's Gameroom. I may also do a build of both the reborn paladin and one of the Children of the Wandering Star monks. |
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Post by umbralwalker on Apr 27, 2015 20:24:42 GMT
Cruroar's story is awesome by the way, I agree. I've had several moments over the decades where someone had to give up something they care about and it is rarely something besides their +3 vorpal sword. I loved listening to Chris and Mitch talk about his story arc throughout the pod. He was such a great source of examples. |
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Post by Samuel Wise on Apr 27, 2015 21:17:18 GMT
Wow, great episode.
It was really interesting (even though I've DMd 4 games and played none). It is funny that I have seen almost all of the different types of players in just 4 games. Great ideas from Mitch, Chris, and Howard.
And I am totally playing a depressed Tiefling...
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Post by joatmoniac on Apr 28, 2015 8:10:30 GMT
I agree with the best advice being to try the other side of the screen. I say it that way because as Almarianknight has stated he has never been a player, and I think it would be great for everyone at the table to have seen both sides of the screen. I think it's virtually impossible not to see the aspects, if no the epitome, of each type of player at any given table. Tons of great advice, and really beneficial that both DM Mitch and DM Chris play as regularly as they DM, which I think is somewhat rare for most DMs. This pod s a great resource for us as DMs to link to our players, but then we will have to tell them not to listen anymore, so they don't hear all these other great ideas from other pods, haha.
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Post by magicmark on Apr 28, 2015 12:04:18 GMT
That Awkward moment when you look at this pole and the 2 you picked each have only one vote....
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Post by Samuel Wise on Apr 28, 2015 14:12:33 GMT
That Awkward moment when you look at this pole and the 2 you picked each have only one vote.... Yep... And apparently I was the first person to choose problem solver after the first six people already voted... |
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Post by umbralwalker on Apr 28, 2015 15:35:23 GMT
Wish I could force some of the players in my D&D Expeditions group to listen to this one. I was just saying to Shawn that it's interesting that DMs are always looking for new techniques to use to run their games, but the vast majority of players I've met or played with feel that new playing techniques aren't something that can benefit them. I had a guy at GenCon last year tell me "I come to the table to play the way I want to play. Why does someone have to tell me how to have a good time?" Which sounds like a fair question, but it's a Straw Man argument. No DM says "Why is this podcast telling me what to do?" They say, "I wonder what would happen if I tried this technique?" I think it's because DMs are always thinking about the good time of everyone at the table by default and players (including myself) sometimes feel that they are there to be entertained (ie: by others/DM). We take our one-man show to different DM's tables or new campaigns and hope that it meshes with the others at the table, or for some weird reason we expect others to "develop" their PC in our PC's direction but not the other way around. |
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Post by DMC on Apr 28, 2015 16:07:39 GMT
Just got back from a wine tasting weekend in Sonoma (NorCal), so I haven't listened yet, but I will be today and tomorrow!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 17:51:19 GMT
Wish I could force some of the players in my D&D Expeditions group to listen to this one. I was just saying to Shawn that it's interesting that DMs are always looking for new techniques to use to run their games, but the vast majority of players I've met or played with feel that new playing techniques aren't something that can benefit them.... I hadn't thought of that, but it's totally true, even of myself when I'm a player. I don't think I've ever asked myself if my play style is conducive to the DM's goals, just assumed that he'd adapt to it. It would be interesting to join a table and say to myself, "Tonight I'm going to be a Fighter. Next time, I'll be an instigator, and then a storyteller..." |
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Post by umbralwalker on Apr 28, 2015 17:53:01 GMT
I was just saying to Shawn that it's interesting that DMs are always looking for new techniques to use to run their games, but the vast majority of players I've met or played with feel that new playing techniques aren't something that can benefit them.... I hadn't thought of that, but it's totally true, even of myself when I'm a player. I don't think I've ever asked myself if my play style is conducive to the DM's goals, just assumed that he'd adapt to it. It would be interesting to join a table and say to myself, "Tonight I'm going to be a Fighter. Next time, I'll be an instigator, and then a storyteller..." That's a really cool idea. I find that players fall into at least 2 categories if not 4, but there are usually one or two they will never be. |
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Post by DM Mitch on Apr 28, 2015 18:43:22 GMT
I hadn't thought of that, but it's totally true, even of myself when I'm a player. I don't think I've ever asked myself if my play style is conducive to the DM's goals, just assumed that he'd adapt to it. It would be interesting to join a table and say to myself, "Tonight I'm going to be a Fighter. Next time, I'll be an instigator, and then a storyteller..." That's a really cool idea. I find that players fall into at least 2 categories if not 4, but there are usually one or two they will never be. Ha! When I voted, I totally thought "I wish I could pick four..." and it was hard to choose my top 2. There are also 2 on the list I would never choose...you're so clever Rich. |
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Post by dm_mainprize on Apr 29, 2015 3:32:14 GMT
Ok, finished the cast, so many awesome ideas and things were discussed. I love love love the 3x5 and the way a DM or other players could use that knowledge about your character to make the story better. The ideas at the end were totally awesome to. As a fellow lover of dwarves the idea of playing one that has never been above ground is awesome and as someone who is currently playing as a dwarf monk I loved hearing all the love for monks in the lightbulb section. I would love a oceanic/water based monk path!(umbralwalker please make one!!!!!)
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Post by umbralwalker on Apr 29, 2015 16:43:28 GMT
I would love a oceanic/water based monk path!(umbralwalker please make one!!!!!) So glad you loved the podcast. I was so tired that day and the guys will tell you I was paranoid about being too bland. Luckily, Mitch did a brilliant job editing. I laughed at the 70's retro mullet music and the TPK cheer. I also want to do some aquatic monk builds, but nothing has jumped out at me so far. I only like to put up builds I'm excited about. I promise I'll put some more thought into it soon. As an aside, my wife and I are on babywatch right now so there will be some delays in posting. If I can, I'll finish up the next Encounter Seeds post and put it up soon. |
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