Post by swiveldiscourse on May 19, 2018 21:03:37 GMT
What did you all think?
Personally, I found the entire thing to be amazing... except for one part: Thanos.
Now, don't get me wrong, Thanos is league's ahead of any villain we've seen in the MCU, with the possible exception of Loki. He was a great villain.
The problem here is that with this many characters in one film, we didn't need a great villain, we needed a Spectacular one, and Thanos was almost, ALMOST, there, but not quite.
You see, the film gave us a great showcase on who Thanos is, but it never gave us that solid "A-ha" moment that encapsulated his personality and his motivations. Take a look at Doom, whose will is so indomitable, so unflappable, that he'd stand up to Gods if all he were given was a 10-foot pole.
Or Xykon, this one comic of Xykon from OOTS perfectly shows who he is and what he's about as a villian.
Or even Loki, who had the first Thor film to establish him as the bundle of Daddy Issues and Roguish-ness before The Avengers.
Even in the comics, Comic Thanos was very clear in his motivations. He lusted and desired for Lady Death to notice him, to the point that he would murder half the universe to do it, or, in a fit of jealousy, he'd curse Deadpool, someone who Lady Death fancied, with immortality to prevent them from being together.
I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that Infinity War's only problem was that for all we've seen Thanos say and do, we never got that "Show, don't Tell" moment to really illustrate his character. So while everything he did in Infinity War was great, and showed us who he is, and even got us to sympathize with him, we're missing that solid basis of his character for reference.
We do kind of get what he's about, but it's never clear. Thanos is the sort who will decide on a goal and a means, and achieve that goal by that means no matter what, perhaps even blinding himself to other methods. The biggest "plot hole" that people point out is that Thanos could've easily used the Infinity Gauntlet to provide infinite resources, not kill half the universe, but in reality, this is a decision that was cemented in his mind since the death of his people. We just never get a clear demonstration of how or why his mentality is this way.
So, what did I take away from Infinity War?
Always give your villains time to develop BEFORE making them villains.
Strong Characters make for better roleplay and interaction than Strong Dialogue ever does.
And if you haven't seen your DM give you that same look that Tony gave The Guardians during the "Kick Names, Take Ass" line, you're simply playing D&D wrong.
Personally, I found the entire thing to be amazing... except for one part: Thanos.
Now, don't get me wrong, Thanos is league's ahead of any villain we've seen in the MCU, with the possible exception of Loki. He was a great villain.
The problem here is that with this many characters in one film, we didn't need a great villain, we needed a Spectacular one, and Thanos was almost, ALMOST, there, but not quite.
You see, the film gave us a great showcase on who Thanos is, but it never gave us that solid "A-ha" moment that encapsulated his personality and his motivations. Take a look at Doom, whose will is so indomitable, so unflappable, that he'd stand up to Gods if all he were given was a 10-foot pole.
Or Xykon, this one comic of Xykon from OOTS perfectly shows who he is and what he's about as a villian.
Or even Loki, who had the first Thor film to establish him as the bundle of Daddy Issues and Roguish-ness before The Avengers.
Even in the comics, Comic Thanos was very clear in his motivations. He lusted and desired for Lady Death to notice him, to the point that he would murder half the universe to do it, or, in a fit of jealousy, he'd curse Deadpool, someone who Lady Death fancied, with immortality to prevent them from being together.
I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that Infinity War's only problem was that for all we've seen Thanos say and do, we never got that "Show, don't Tell" moment to really illustrate his character. So while everything he did in Infinity War was great, and showed us who he is, and even got us to sympathize with him, we're missing that solid basis of his character for reference.
We do kind of get what he's about, but it's never clear. Thanos is the sort who will decide on a goal and a means, and achieve that goal by that means no matter what, perhaps even blinding himself to other methods. The biggest "plot hole" that people point out is that Thanos could've easily used the Infinity Gauntlet to provide infinite resources, not kill half the universe, but in reality, this is a decision that was cemented in his mind since the death of his people. We just never get a clear demonstration of how or why his mentality is this way.
So, what did I take away from Infinity War?
Always give your villains time to develop BEFORE making them villains.
Strong Characters make for better roleplay and interaction than Strong Dialogue ever does.
And if you haven't seen your DM give you that same look that Tony gave The Guardians during the "Kick Names, Take Ass" line, you're simply playing D&D wrong.