Samuel Wise
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Post by Samuel Wise on Mar 30, 2015 1:29:59 GMT
One of the best ways to come up with a cool new name is to use another language. What are some of your favorite languages to use? And how do you go about picking words from these languages? Latin: This is usually the first language I go to when making names. I have spent three years learning it and, though it is not my favorite language, it has some cool words. This is usually how I choose names in Latin. The world I have been laboring on is called Älmara (a name I pulled from my head), Älmara (All-Merr-Ah) is divided into several countries. The first I got from the Latin word for Fire: Ignis. Of course, Ignis sounds too much like 'ignite' so I decided to use some LATIN grammar to make it less noticeable. I used the Latin version of a superlative (issimus) and add it to the end of the word: Ignamus, which is the name of one country in Älmara. (Here is an awesome free English-Latin dictionary: archives.nd.edu/words.html ). Anglo-Saxon: I am not fluent in this language at all, but it is the most beautiful sounding one in my opinion. Indeed it is the very language J.R.R. Tolkien used to base his elven language off of. I haven't used this extensively in my world, but it is an oral based language, rather than a written based one. A good book on it is: Old English Grammar and Reader by Robert E. Diamond. If you really want to go the extra mile for cool names. There are just some ideas, though I would love to hear how (or if) you guys use languages and what languages you use.
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Post by insightfulhedgehog on Mar 30, 2015 5:20:56 GMT
In High School I took 4 years of German (plus a semester of being a TA for my German teacher) and spent a month in Germany. (Note: It was a full immersion class where the teacher didn't speak any english to you during class or even outside of class from day one) I draw a lot of inspiration from that and for an example a nation in my campaign is called Meeris and is a nautical nation. Meer is the german word for sea.
Also, I use english words and just kind of butcher them until they are not recognisable right away. One example is that I have a city named Noltus and Soltus one is northern and the other southern. It may seem obvious I don't know but don't overlook english words and the segments that make them up.
That said, for my desert nation I have been using words from arabic to name some of my cities. However, seeing as how a lot of the words are a bit long for my taste that I've picked out I have started just listening to google translates pronunciations of arabic words and taking bits and pieces I like and altering them.
Recently, DM Mainprize posted a list of dwarven phrases on one of my threads because I had said I was having trouble with Dwarven location names. He suggested combining words to make meaningful titles. An example is my capitol which specializes in trade and sits on a lake which is called Varnurbar which means Lake trade. Definitely a cool way to use a fictional language as well.
Okay, one last tip on language use. If you want a city to be named after its use etc. in another language just google "_____ in other languages" or put it in a translator and keep changing the language you are translating to until you find something you like. I have occasionally used this method when I'm running low on ideas.
Note: I love the name Ignamus.
I enjoyed this post. Using other languages is a great resource that is often overlooked. I have found this to be much more beneficial then random name generators when it comes to coming up with important location names.
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Post by friartook on Mar 30, 2015 12:24:06 GMT
I tend to go for dead languages. Sanskrit, Sumerian, Assyrian, that sort of thing. Sometimes I'll combine words from multiple languages and make new word, or do secret puns. I named the sea captain in our campaign Captain Malah which translates to Captain Captain. A joke only I know of, but that's ok, because only I'd find it funny.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 19:00:54 GMT
Ya, I make up names (both people and locations) based on the phonemes of various Earth cultures. Here's a list of some of the major nations and their capitols on the main continent. Tell me if you can guess their Earth counterpart:
Serrido -- Cida Serrido Etraille -- Lacodia Treschenvur -- Heidar Gen Oscader -- Yeursk Alla'rahn -- Moha Dior Shensedai -- Ko Shan Li
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Samuel Wise
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Post by Samuel Wise on Mar 30, 2015 20:54:21 GMT
Here are a few guesses: Shensedai(Ko Shan Li)- I am pretty certain this is of Chinese origin. Alla'rhan(MohaDior)- Arabic I think Sergio/Etraille- This is completely a guess: Spanish/French respectively? Hope I got at least one of those right. But I really like the idea of having different countries use names from seperate cultures. I am definitely going to do this with my own world.
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Post by insightfulhedgehog on Mar 31, 2015 0:15:39 GMT
I use different languages for the names of NPC's from each nation. Such as Alhasan from Arabic for my desert nation. I'm thinking of using germanic names for my other human nation. I like doing it this way but it does restrict you if you adhere to it religiously. I imagine the same applies to location names. But, I definitely like the idea.
I have almost no Idea on any of the names other then ones almarianknight has already mentioned so I'll just say that I really like all of your names and leave it at that.
Also to Friartook, I love how much info you provided in such a short response. The idea of using dead languages is good because the connections are less obvious to your players. Also, reading about the Captain Captain name made me audibly chuckle. Loving it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 5:37:04 GMT
Correct on all counts, almarianknight.
Oscader/Yeursk is Russian, Treschenvur/Heidar Gen is German. Another prominent area on this continent is called the Free States of the West, and consists of 9 nations. When they became a federation, they adopted the "common language" (High Etratian) as their official language, and chose state names in High Etratian that shared phonemes with their original names. The culture in each state roughly corresponds to their original names: Promaxea (Greek) became Promise, Escalia (Italy) became Scales -- as in scales of justice, Sjorn (Norse) become Sojourn, etc.
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Post by dm_mainprize on Apr 2, 2015 14:15:38 GMT
Ok, finally have a chance to contribute to all these sweet threads. So for names I totally agree other languages is an epic place to turn. I generally will grab from other fictional languages first before using or adapting from real world languages. I do this unless the culture or group or person matches a specific earth culture, then I will take a word from an existing real world language. Another method I use is using a specific section on Thesaurus.com. Thesaurus website is one of my main resources and I have it open almost always in another tab. I use it to A. grab less common forms of words and B. to learn the history of a word. When you search for a word on thesaurus.com and get a list its synonyms, there appears on the right hand side of the page a brief little section on the words origins and history. I will often take its origin word from various old languages and use that instead of the word itself or its synonyms. This helps to give an old/ancient feel to the words you use. So below are some links to resources I use for finding names. Dwarven Dictionary - Warhammer, Tolkien, Others Elven Dictionary - Tolkien Thesaurus - link leads to the synonyms for "master" see right hand panel for word origin and history Google Translate - great for changing languages Old English Translator/ Dictionary - Awesome stuff here Hope that helps people make and create great names.
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Post by dmgrendel on Apr 10, 2015 3:28:09 GMT
I love Old English (Anglo-Saxon), but all of the words I want to use end up being cognates. Death translates to... Death. Although if you want a badass name for a monster, Sceadugenga (shadow-walker/treader) is pretty good. All of the links are really helpful- I'll agonize over a name while prepping a night's adventures, to the point that I have to take a break. Again, I don't think DMing brings out my best aspects....
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Post by Orinen on Apr 22, 2017 21:03:11 GMT
I base most of my names in Czech, it's really rich language and has soft sounding words as well as hard ones. We translate even some names. There's no John, it's Jan, there's no George, it's Jiří. Also, yes, "ř", it is inexplicable to even some native speakers, but dang doesn't it sound cool. Another thing, we hoard consonants, so you get words like zmrzl (which would translate to "he froze"). You can have a look at Kingdom Come: Deliverance for more. German is also cool, their composing of words gives good opportunities for naming thing it's literal description without being too obvious. Obviously, latin is used far and wide and I use it too, I have not been educated in it, so I just randomly translate words and just add different suffixes. Sometimes it's fun to use gibberish words from foreign songs just as you hear them, not looking for the meaning. Titles of songs sometimes work too. I have for example city named Mannah na Mahna (a city of Mannah on the river of Mahna) based on, you guessed it, mahna mahna from muppet show. Yet another option is to just change the phonetic sound of word. English is weird about saying certain groups of letters (Sean Bean should rhyme, it is against nature, that that doesn't rhyme), so I just put that english word to google translate as if it was let's say polish and voila. (Granted, this doesn't work with many words, but can be interesting too.)
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Post by catcharlie on May 7, 2017 23:58:37 GMT
I named a character Velox Vulpes, which is basically 'Fox' in latin, she was a thief, so it was quite suiting. and I had a Changeling with a surname of Lar'va which is a bit punny, and also based on a latin dictionary.
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Post by meribson on May 8, 2017 0:40:08 GMT
What I do is whenever I'm building a new culture/language/naming group is pick a source culture(s), get at least 100 names total, plug them into Everchanging Book of Names, then repeat for the other gender plus sur/family/clan/etc.-names. It's a fair amount of work at first, but from then on afterwards I just have to pull up EBN and a few clicks later I have a list of all the names I need.
For a society of minotaurs in a previous game world, I used Incan and Ancient Egyptian; got names like Pacanyas, Utka, Itho, Onki, Nanuturan, Husan, Hahtzopichtli, Contanqui, and Custenquennu.
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